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Friday and Saturday last week I had the privilege of attending the first Sage Congress. Hopefully this will be the first in a series of posts that cover that meeting because there is simply so much to think about and so much to just get on and do.

This is not a post about public engagement work by scientists. It is not about going to schools and giving talks. It is not about engaging with the main stream media to present your work to the great unwashed. It is about engaging with the people who will be driving your research agenda within ten years, about how the way researchers connect with society will be changed over the next decade whether they like it or not. The aim of Sage Bionetworks, the wider Sage Commons, and its constituent projects is nothing less than to change the pace at which medical research operates. An aim that was put forward seriously as a twelve month goal in one of our breakouts was to document three use cases where information from the Sage Commons had made a difference to a patient. The scientific details are perhaps less important than the delivery plan; an open plaform for laboratory and clinical data, linked to detailed models that explain that data, and ultimately to tools for clinical staff and laboratory scientists to use and crucially to contribute back to where appropriate.

As you might expect expect the meeting included scientists, technologists, policy people, funders and publishers. It also included a significant number of patient advocates and by the end of the meeting, for me at least, they were at the core the project. This might not be surprising if it were just as motivation for getting things done. Josh Sommer‘s enormously powerful talk was pitched perfectly to spur the group to action. I cannot do it justice, but will link to the video when it is available. But that was only half the story. The second half was when these same patient advocates got up at the synthesis session at the end of the meeting to say they had formed their own workstream. Their aim? To get Stephen on Oprah. Again publicity and information for “the public”, support perhaps and help in fundraising. But to focus on that is still to miss the point.

A second hand conversation was related to me in which a major agency representative had said “we will never make data public”. I have sympathy for this view. Such agencies need to protect their standards, and this includes an absolute adherence to privacy policies and validated ethical procedures. But contrast that with the talk from Anne Wojcicki talking about how 23andMe get enormous response rates on questionaires containing deeply personal questions where the aggregate information will be made public. Contrast it with the talk from Rob Epstein of Medco talking about cold calling patients to ask if they would be willing to contribute to rapid testing programmes to see whether genotyping can reduce hospitalizations caused by warfarin. And contrast it with Josh Sommer’s work with the Chordoma Foundation, Gilles Frydman‘s with ACOR and the Society for Participatory Medicine, or the many other examples at the congress; services like Patients Like Me where patients want to push data out, both because they get valuable information back for themselves and because they want to make a difference. We are rapidly moving towards a world where networks of patients might refuse to sign up for trials that don’t commit to making the data publicly available.

People like me tend to advocate getting funders to push for policy change, because they hold the pursestrings and are best placed to push through change. One thing we’ve often forgotten is that they are simply intermediaries. They are not the real funders, and they don’t provide the only form of funding. Increasingly they don’t hold the real power either. In clinical research the patients involved are directly funding your work as well as indirectly through their taxes or charitable donations. They are perhaps the biggest funders of medical research; donating their time and hard won information about their state of health. They are also the most effective advocates of that research. The engagment group at the congress didn’t stand up and say “we want to help”, they stood up to say “you need us to succeed in your aims”.

What projects like GalaxyZoo show us is that when you effectively enable an engaged portion of the wider community to contribute to your research that you can increase the pace by orders of magnitude. “The public” is not some homogeneous group of barbarians at the gate of our ivory towers. They are a diverse group, many of them interested in what researchers do; many of them passionately interested in some specific thing for a wide range of different reasons. In a world where the web enables access and communication, and enables those with common interests to find each other, people who are passionately interested in what you are doing are going to be increasingly unimpressed if avenues are unavailable for them to follow and contribute. And funders, including those ultimate funders, are going to be increasingly unimpressed if you don’t effectively tap into that resource.

The need to actively engage with, not at, the wider community as active contributors is shifting the balance of power in research, probably irrevocably. I think that is probably a good thing.

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  • http://friendfeed.com/billhooker Bill Hooker

    pq:"“The public” is not some homogeneous group of barbarians at the gate of our ivory towers." No no, of course not. It’s a highly heterogeneous group of barbarians, and they long since over-ran the gates of the ivory towers. :-) (Obdisclaimer after that sort of comment: I agree with Cameron, that this is largely a good thing.)

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  • http://twitter.com/Etche_homo Etche_homo

    Really liked: Engage or become irrelevant http://cameronneylon.net/blog/engage-or-become-irrelevant/ #fb

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  • http://friendfeed.com/alethea Heather

    This is a fantastic post.

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  • http://friendfeed.com/cameronneylon Cameron Neylon

    You’re right of course Bill. It’s just that most academics continue to assume that they’re the hired help…

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  • http://friendfeed.com/billhooker Bill Hooker

    … when in fact it’s we, the researchers, who are exactly that — the hired help. I’ve said for years that science should be viewed as a service industry (even if it is really, really slow service).

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  • http://friendfeed.com/cameronneylon Cameron Neylon

    Yup, slow and surly for the most part. I have to admit it’s not always obvious how to go about doing this kind of thing effectively. But step one, find the right community.

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  • http://twitter.com/neilfws neilfws

    Liked “Engage or become irrelevant” http://ff.im/-jtZBQ

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  • http://twitter.com/shwu shwu

    Patients push policy — and what this means for researchers. “Engage or become irrelevant” http://bit.ly/aWgtWR (@cameronneylon)

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  • http://twitter.com/23andMe 23andMe

    The recent @sagecongress by @CameronNeylon – open data, patient advocacy, public engagement: http://bit.ly/by3lPB #sagecon

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  • http://friendfeed.com/neilfws Neil Saunders

    totally off-topic, way down the bottom of the page is a theme-related "Fatal error: Call to undefined function wp_ffcomments()" which you might want to look at.

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  • http://friendfeed.com/cameronneylon Cameron Neylon

    I think I’ve fixed it – though I’m not sure how, are you still seeing it?

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  • http://friendfeed.com/neilfws Neil Saunders

    still seeing it, only on individual blog post pages (with comments form)

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  • http://twitter.com/sarahkendrew sarahkendrew

    http://icio.us/fkd5js

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  • http://twitter.com/subratabanik subratabanik

    Engage or become irrelevant. http://cameronneylon.net/blog/engage-or-become-irrelevant/

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  • http://sagecongress.org/WP/http:/sagecongress.org/WP/2010/congress-summaries Congress Summaries : Sage Commons Congress

    [...] Cameron Neylon covered the Congress extensively on Twitter and provides a great viewpoint at: http://cameronneylon.net/blog/engage-or-become-irrelevant/. [...]

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  • April 27, 2010 at 6:37 pm Cameron Neylon
    Friday and Saturday last week I had the privilege of attending the first Sage Congress. Hopefully this will be the first in a series of posts that cover that meeting because there is simply so much to think about and so much to just get on and do. This is not a post about public engagement work by scientists. It is not about going to schools and giving talks. It is not about engaging with the main stream media to present your work to the great unwashed. It is about engaging with the people who will be driving your research agenda within ten years, about how the way researchers connect with society will be changed over the next decade whether they like it or not.
  • April 27, 2010 at 7:03 pm Bill Hooker
    pq:"“The public” is not some homogeneous group of barbarians at the gate of our ivory towers." No no, of course not. It's a highly heterogeneous group of barbarians, and they long since over-ran the gates of the ivory towers. :-) (Obdisclaimer after that sort of comment: I agree with Cameron, that this is largely a good thing.)
  • April 27, 2010 at 7:08 pm Heather
    This is a fantastic post.
  • April 27, 2010 at 7:08 pm Cameron Neylon
    You're right of course Bill. It's just that most academics continue to assume that they're the hired help...
  • April 27, 2010 at 7:22 pm Bill Hooker
    ... when in fact it's we, the researchers, who are exactly that -- the hired help. I've said for years that science should be viewed as a service industry (even if it is really, really slow service).
  • April 27, 2010 at 8:43 pm Cameron Neylon
    Yup, slow and surly for the most part. I have to admit it's not always obvious how to go about doing this kind of thing effectively. But step one, find the right community.
  • April 28, 2010 at 1:37 am Neil Saunders
    totally off-topic, way down the bottom of the page is a theme-related "Fatal error: Call to undefined function wp_ffcomments()" which you might want to look at.
  • April 28, 2010 at 5:46 am Cameron Neylon
    I think I've fixed it - though I'm not sure how, are you still seeing it?
  • April 28, 2010 at 6:16 am Neil Saunders
    still seeing it, only on individual blog post pages (with comments form)
  • April 28, 2010 at 7:51 am Cameron Neylon
    Ok, think it's fixed now - I've got some plugin incompatibility issues I need to work through obviously...
  • April 28, 2010 at 4:51 pm joergkurtwegner
    Provocative title and I like the thinking
  • June 9, 2010 at 7:16 pm Joe McCarthy
    Great post! I discovered this via Gilles Frydman's Twitter feed (@gfry) in my browsing around the web pages and Twitter feeds of participants at the Health 2.0 Conference this week. At the risk of mentioning kindred spirits you and/or your readers may already be aware of, Douglas Rushkoff gave a talk at SXSW earlier this year on Program or Be Programmed and Tim O'Reilly recently wrote an essay on Government as a Platform (which invokes the metaphor of a vending machine to represent the prevalent view of government), both of which corroborate some of the ideas you espouse here. I'm glad to see this convergence of great thinking and hope it will help promote great actions ... i.e., I hope more of us will choose engagement over irrelevance!
  • June 10, 2010 at 12:59 am Cameron Neylon
    I like Gilles post at http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/06/why-a-patient-2-0-panel-at-the-health-2-0-dc-conference.html making a case for the concept of "patient as platform" which is a great soundbite that captures my view well. Sounds like the panel was really interesting certainly.

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